SATV long travel

[johndeerefarmer]

Anybody here running the SATV long travel kit? I ordered it during Cyber Monday and am waiting on shipment. Also gotta go to Colorado and get the Xpedition so I can install it here.

If you have it, give us a review.

Thanks

 

[garciava]

mine arrived today. hope to get it put on this week.

 

[cek]

Saw one being installed today. Pretty nice kit actually. Knowing that SATV built it you know they’ll have stuff in stock as well as it will accept all of their ball joints and comes with their rhino axles.

 

[johndeerefarmer]

Mine came in yesterday. As soon as I get my Xpedition home from CO I will start on mine.
Currently replacing u joints on my Ranger.

 

[garciava]

Got mine installed. Very happy with the instillation of the kit. Put Valor wheels with Valor Alfa 35" tires. Looks good. My son will take it to Moab tomorrow and will let me know what I need to do for clutching. Looks great

 

[JTBarlow]

Looking good. I am curious about the quality and how long they’ll lasts. I had SATV High Clearance A-arms on my General and a couple of the welds broke. I will give it to SATV, they warrantied them without question. But the fact they broke in the first place was annoying.

 

[garciava]

I had a set of heavy duty high clearance a arms on my 2018 XPT and had no issues but I was disappointed to see made in China on the boxes. I thought their products were made in the US

 

[JTBarlow]

The majority of what SATV, Assault, Etc. sell is manufactured in china. There are some brands they’ve acquired that they’re keeping USA made like HCR, but in general, if it’s less expensive than other brands and items in the same category, it’s most likely going to be Chinese manufactured.
If you want USA manufactured, you’ve got to be willing to pay the extra expense. The raw costs of manufacturing anything in the US is higher than almost any other country.

Also, made in china doesn’t always mean low quality. It’s whatever quality the Brand requires and is willing to pay for.

 

[jasonphoto01]

Got mine installed. Very happy with the instillation of the kit. Put Valor wheels with Valor Alfa 35" tires. Looks good. My son will take it to Moab tomorrow and will let me know what I need to do for clutching. Looks great

Whats your overall width and height now?

 

[johndeerefarmer]

I have SATV arms on my 15 Ranger. No issues other than hard to get grease into the fittings. Had them on my 17 General as well. It mainly spent its life in Colorado on the rocky trails without issue.

You sometimes have to modify stuff to make it fit and sometimes the instructions aren't the best but for the money SATV is the best option. I also haven't read any reports of the axles falling out like on the other brands of mid and long travel kits

 

[garciava]

77" wide and 16" ride height. My shock valve caps with Schrader valves came in today so hopefully in the next few days i can get them installed and set nitrogen to OEM specs. then I'll adjust ride height

 

[cek]

77" wide and 16" ride height. My shock valve caps with Schrader valves came in today so hopefully in the next few days i can get them installed and set nitrogen to OEM specs. then I'll adjust ride height

Stock springs? I have a kit on order for a buddy. Wondering what spring kit peeps are using. I have Schmitty on mine with the HCR kit

 

[johndeerefarmer]

Got my SATV long travel kit installed. I am currently 77" wide. I set ride height at about 15 1/4" measuring off the metal beneath the skid plate. Axles are fairly flat at 10 degrees. Wondering if I should crank the preload down some more or buy the Schmidty spring kit. What angle do you run your axles at?
Polaris Xpedition Fox Dual Rate Spring Kit Dual Rate Spring Kit l Schmidty Racing Suspensions

 

[JTBarlow]

Polaris OEM springs have a tendency to sag over time. In my opinion it’s always worthwhile to upgrade the springs. Also, the less the preload on the springs the better. Too much preload trying to regain ride height can cause shock damage by slamming the end at full extension. It’s better to go to a heavier spring and keep less than 1” of preload while maintaining proper ride height.

Also, proper ride height is based on shock travel, rather than axle angle. I’m assuming you got Rhino Axles with the long travel, and they can handle all the extremes of the articulation angles allowed by the suspension. With factory spec being 14” ground clearance on 30” tires, and assuming that SATV Long Travel maintains the factory shock Geometry, the ride height should be set the same (with adjustment for larger tires) to maintain the best shock performance and ride quality.

 

[johndeerefarmer]

Polaris OEM springs have a tendency to sag over time. In my opinion it’s always worthwhile to upgrade the springs. Also, the less the preload on the springs the better. Too much preload trying to regain ride height can cause shock damage by slamming the end at full extension. It’s better to go to a heavier spring and keep less than 1” of preload while maintaining proper ride height.

Also, proper ride height is based on shock travel, rather than axle angle. I’m assuming you got Rhino Axles with the long travel, and they can handle all the extremes of the articulation angles allowed by the suspension. With factory spec being 14” ground clearance on 30” tires, and assuming that SATV Long Travel maintains the factory shock Geometry, the ride height should be set the same (with adjustment for larger tires) to maintain the best shock performance and ride quality.

Yes, kit comes with 4" longer than stock Rhino axles. I sent Schmidty some questions via email. Thanks

Looking at pixs of the SATV long travel kit (mainly from dealers so I am sure pixs are supplied by SATV) they appear to have quit a bit more axle angle than my 9 degrees

 

[cek]

That’s not enough axle angle. Per MTS You need to be at about 11 degrees. I am using the factory springs and have about 300 miles in the kit. I did add a bit more preload to mine. I added 1” of preload to their recommendation. I’m running 35’s. I can’t remember what they recommended tho.

 

[johndeerefarmer]

That’s not enough axle angle. Per MTS You need to be at about 11 degrees. I am using the factory springs and have about 300 miles in the kit. I did add a bit more preload to mine. I added 1” of preload to their recommendation. I’m running 35’s. I can’t remember what they recommended tho.

Thanks. My upper springs are already close to being flattened out. Not sure how much more I can do unless I change springs

 

[cek]

Thanks. My upper springs are already close to being flattened out. Not sure how much more I can do unless I change springs

Yeah after my last adjustment mine are getting close. I want to see how far I can go before a swap. I have Schmidty on my X with HCR and my buddy has MTS with the Thumper kit. I did both installs and did them when the kits were installed with no miles on them. Right now I have about 300 miles on the stock springs. This is where they are now.

 

[johndeerefarmer]

My coils are already closer than yours and I haven't even tried to get the axle angle to 11 degrees. Waiting on Schmidty but probably gonna buy their springs and nitrogen refill equipment. I can usually adjust the springs one time on my other Polaris machines and they will hold. I think the Xpedition is so heavy the springs just can't handle it. Weighed my tools and stuff for Schmidty. I carry 205 lbs of tools and supplies, gas, extra winch, tire chains, etc. Add a couple people and couple dogs (360 lbs) and we are near 600 lbs

 

[BADXP]

My coils are already closer than yours and I haven't even tried to get the axle angle to 11 degrees. Waiting on Schmidty but probably gonna buy their springs and nitrogen refill equipment. I can usually adjust the springs one time on my other Polaris machines and they will hold. I think the Xpedition is so heavy the springs just can't handle it. Weighed my tools and stuff for Schmidty. I carry 205 lbs of tools and supplies, gas, extra winch, tire chains, etc. Add a couple people and couple dogs (360 lbs) and we are near 600 lbs

I know shock therapy calls for measuring ride height loaded and with driver/passengers. I gave them heavier weights than I typically run and still had to put in 2” of preload to get to my 15” ride height (32” tires). Don’t love it but not sure what else to do. Hope you like the schmidty kit.