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Hello Xpedition Owners,
I have a Grand Design toyhauler that we purchased specifically to haul a SxS. We purchased a Polaris Xpedition ADV5 Northstar. Question I have to help with trailer weight distribution. Question, with the weight of the ADV5 being towards the back, should I back the unit into the garage to get bulk of weight over the rear axle?
 
I’d definitely recommend backing it in. You’ll want the least amount of weight you can out on the very end of the trailer.
Thank you for the quick response. I was thinking the same, but wanted to see if anyone else had come to the same conclusion. Do you have a similar situation?
 
Thank you for the quick response. I was thinking the same, but wanted to see if anyone else had come to the same conclusion. Do you have a similar situation?
I don’t personally have a Toyhauler, just a bunch of experience towing multiple trailer types.
A lot depends on the type of toyhauler you have. A 5th wheel will be more forgiving on tail weight than a Tongue pull will be.
 
Is the trailer enclosed or open .
The trailer is a Momentum 381MS, so enclosed. I have hauled enough to know to keep the weight as close the the trailer axles, but wanted to see if there was some unknown reason not to back into an enclosed toy hauler since wind is not a factor.
 
We used my Xpedition to test fit into a friend’s Toyhauler since he’s looking at getting the Xpedition. Mine is the XP, which is what he’s wanting to get. The concern was it fitting under the bed at the back. It fit backing it in with about 3” to spare. If it’d been an ADV I don’t know if it would’ve fit going backwards. I am running 32” tires and have the suspension adjusted up tho, so factory tires and height would’ve fit much easier.
 
We used my Xpedition to test fit into a friend’s Toyhauler since he’s looking at getting the Xpedition. Mine is the XP, which is what he’s wanting to get. The concern was it fitting under the bed at the back. It fit backing it in with about 3” to spare. If it’d been an ADV I don’t know if it would’ve fit going backwards. I am running 32” tires and have the suspension adjusted up tho, so factory tires and height would’ve fit much easier.
That is certainly a concern. I spent some time with a couple of local Polaris shop guys discussing this very issue and they stated that for shipping nearly all the new SxS come with a ratchet strap to compress the suspension to gain another 3" height. Not super convenient, but neither is trying to get another trailer with SxS to your camp location. Interestingly, some of the models actually have a place to attach the strap.
 

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We used my Xpedition to test fit into a friend’s Toyhauler since he’s looking at getting the Xpedition. Mine is the XP, which is what he’s wanting to get. The concern was it fitting under the bed at the back. It fit backing it in with about 3” to spare. If it’d been an ADV I don’t know if it would’ve fit going backwards. I am running 32” tires and have the suspension adjusted up tho, so factory tires and height would’ve fit much easier.
It’s a problem. Just bought a brand new Xpedition Northstar ADV single seat. wanted to buy a used Grand Design Momentum toy hauler. However, the Xpedition is too tall by about an inch and a half to fit in the toy hauler. We don’t know what we’re going to do. I guess we’ll look for another toy hauler with that’s tall enough to accommodate the ADV model. We measured a general and it’s only about an inch different in height. We’re pretty disappointed because it appears that the majority of toy haulers will not be tall enough to allow the ADV. we really planned on hauling the ADV around in the toy hauler and spending days to a week or so in the hills with it. I’m thinking that will end up getting rid of the ADV if we can’t find a trailer for it.
Does anyone know of a toy hauler that is tall enough to accommodate the Xpedition Northstar ADV?
 
If you haven’t had your suspension height adjusted on your Xpedition, it’s probably sitting 2”+ lower than it should. On a 2 door Xpedition it’s not as big a deal as on the 4 doors, but still won’t ride as well as it would properly adjusted.

I don’t know much on the different makes of Toy haulers, but there are quite a few with big enough garages for even the 4 door Xpedition on 32” tires and proper ride height.
My friend’s, that I tested my machine in is a tongue pull. And I’ve seen multiple 5th wheel toy haulers that hauled Xpeditions as well.
 
If you haven’t had your suspension height adjusted on your Xpedition, it’s probably sitting 2”+ lower than it should. On a 2 door Xpedition it’s not as big a deal as on the 4 doors, but still won’t ride as well as it would properly adjusted.

I don’t know much on the different makes of Toy haulers, but there are quite a few with big enough garages for even the 4 door Xpedition on 32” tires and proper ride height.
My friend’s, that I tested my machine in is a tongue pull. And I’ve seen multiple 5th wheel toy haulers that hauled Xpeditions as well.
Thanks
 
Or! You can dump the whole idea of the conventional everyday RV toy hauler and buy something that is built like a brick shit house.
Merhow, a company that has been a leader in horse trailers for almost 75 yrs builds toyhaulers with custom living quarters that isn't thin particle board with glued wood look a like paper. The entire living quarters is soild wood. Additionally, the roof is one seamless piece of aluminum. I built mine with a 16 foot garage. I have no issues getting my XP5 in or out with 32 inch tires.
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If you haven’t had your suspension height adjusted on your Xpedition, it’s probably sitting 2”+ lower than it should. On a 2 door Xpedition it’s not as big a deal as on the 4 doors, but still won’t ride as well as it would properly adjusted.

I don’t know much on the different makes of Toy haulers, but there are quite a few with big enough garages for even the 4 door Xpedition on 32” tires and proper ride height.
My friend’s, that I tested my machine in is a tongue pull. And I’ve seen multiple 5th wheel toy haulers that hauled Xpeditions as well.
Thanks. Is the suspension height adjustment something the dealer should have done at delivery? Is it something an owner can do or will it require special expertise?
 
The dealers can do it, but of the 16+ Xpeditions I’ve worked on, none ever have. There’s a tool in the kit that comes with the machine for the nut at the top of the springs. The easiest way to adjust them is to remove the shocks from the machine and use a spring compressor. It typically takes a couple times removing, adjusting, and re-installing to get the height set properly.

It can be done with the shocks on the machine, though it’s much more difficult, unless you make a custom tool, like I have for the job. To do it with the shocks still on the machine, you’ll need to jack it up so the shocks are at full extension, then adjust the nut down the shocks to add preload to the springs. Then drive it around a little to settle the machine before measuring again.
 
The dealers can do it, but of the 16+ Xpeditions I’ve worked on, none ever have. There’s a tool in the kit that comes with the machine for the nut at the top of the springs. The easiest way to adjust them is to remove the shocks from the machine and use a spring compressor. It typically takes a couple times removing, adjusting, and re-installing to get the height set properly.

It can be done with the shocks on the machine, though it’s much more difficult, unless you make a custom tool, like I have for the job. To do it with the shocks still on the machine, you’ll need to jack it up so the shocks are at full extension, then adjust the nut down the shocks to add preload to the springs. Then drive it around a little to settle the machine before measuring again.
Thanks
 
Or! You can dump the whole idea of the conventional everyday RV toy hauler and buy something that is built like a brick shit house.
Merhow, a company that has been a leader in horse trailers for almost 75 yrs builds toyhaulers with custom living quarters that isn't thin particle board with glued wood look a like paper. The entire living quarters is soild wood. Additionally, the roof is one seamless piece of aluminum. I built mine with a 16 foot garage. I have no issues getting my XP5 in or out with 32 inch tires.
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